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The bird has learnt this art of equilibrium and learnt it so thoroughly that its skill is not apparent to our sight. We only learn to appreciate it when we try to imitate it and I, Charles Kinnear, will now demonstrate the miracle of flight! Into the wild blue yonder, Marston!

Charles Kinnear

Deadalus and Son is a Stranger side-mission featured in Red Dead Redemption.


Charles Kinnear is found on a ridge in Mexico with his flying machine. He explains that flying is becoming popular out east, and that he's going to be the first to sail through these lands with his flying machine and take advantage of the strong updrafts of the region. Kinnear's flying machine is not ready, however, and he asks Marston to get him some supplies.


Mission Prerequisites

Before this Stranger will appear on the world map, the player must complete:

Mission Objectives

After speaking with Charles Kinnear, the player must:

  • Gather 20 feathers from any combination of birds.
  • Gather 5 beaver furs.
  • Gather 10 Red Sage.
  • Return these items to Charles Kinnear.
  • Wait 1–2 days for Kinnear to complete his glider.

Mission Details

Talk to the stranger near Agave Viejo.

He is located in between Casa Madrugada and Agave Viejo, just South of Roca de Madera, on the cliff's edge.

Tips and Tricks

  • When hunting beavers, head to the northern region of Tall Trees; they tend to appear more around dawn. They can be found on the ground around trees, and will respond to bait placed near the water. Be wary, as Tall Trees is also home to wolves and several bear spawns. Beavers are similar in appearance to Raccoons, but have a flatter body and a broad, flat tail, and are brown and black rather than grey.
  • Another good place to hunt beavers is slightly North West of Bearclaw Camp. There are many in the hills above the river.
  • A good place to collect Red Sage is in Rio Bravo (just above Plainview). There is also a handy Survivalist Map (purchasable from General Stores), which shows all herbs on your mini-map from longer distances for 20 minutes (40 if passed rank 5 of Survivalist Challenge). It is best to avoid the hollow overlooking Armadillo, however, since this area is frequented by a pair of fast-respawning Cougars and full of bushes and scrub that make them difficult to spot.
  • The Stranger can die. One known possibility for this is the wolves that inhabit the land close to the stranger. Shooting at these wolves will cause him to panic and run off the cliff to his death (in the worst-case scenario). In this situation, it was reported that the Stranger respawned approximately seven in-game days later.
  • Feathers can be found literally everywhere; large birds drop more than small ones, as a rule. A fast way to gain feathers is by clearing a gang hideout; a large number of Vultures will spawn when the hideout is clear.


  • Kinnear's ambitions are a little anachronistic; the Wright Brothers had achieved powered flight in 1903, and reports of early gliders stretch right back to the 9th century, with well-documented successful examples as early as 1849.
  • In Greek mythology, Daedalus was a great inventor who built wings out of wax and feathers with which he intended to escape from the labyrinth in which the king Minos of Crete had imprisoned him, together with his son, Icarus. While they were flying, Daedalus noticed that Icarus flew too close to the sun. The wax melted and Icarus fell to his death in the sea.
    • Kinnear, however, appears unaware of this, as he exclaims to Marston "They doubted dear Icarus sir, yes they did!".
  • The fact that Daedalus's name is misspelled in the title of the mission as "Deadalus" provides a small amount of dark humor and hints at Kinnear's unfortunate fate at the end of the mission.
  • If you start the mission as John and give Kinnear the supplies as Jack, Kinnear might make a remark while you walk up to him saying: "Is that you? Oh, the years have been very kind."
    • Also if the mission is completed as Jack when you give Kinnear the supplies he will ask: "Did the kind man send you?"
  • The flying machine will remain at the base of the cliff for the entirety of the game, even after many years.
  • If you look carefully, you can see the crashed flying machine on your map, even before you start the mission.
  • You must complete this mission to obtain scrap 5 of the DLC Outfit called Expert Hunter Outfit.
  • Immediately after completing the mission, the player can scope in with a sniper rifle or binoculars and see Charles' body. It will normally have unspawned by the time the player reaches it if they go via the trail down to the bottom of the mesa, but with some luck it is possible to survive sliding down the cliff. Charles' body has only a Survival Map if looted.
  • Sometimes, after Charles crashes down below, his body will bug and fly all over the area before dropping somewhere entirely random. This can be quite humorous. It is possible to lasso him when he gets close but doing so will hurl you off the cliff and down below. This has only been seen on the Xbox 360 version of the game. Installing the game can fix this bug.
  • During the opening cut-scene of "Exodus in America", Jenny, a passenger on the train, can be heard talking about flying machines. Also, a young Jack Marston mentions that there are machines that can "turn men into angels." Jack is referring to the still new invention of the airplane.


  • Upon completion of this mission, when Charles gives the player money, it can occasionally zero out the player's wallet.
  • There has been at least one occurrence of Charles jumping off the cliff in the cutscene while the flying machine remains where it was before the player approached him. This is followed by Charles hilariously hanging in the air briefly, as if he were still using the flying machine.
  • While delivering the materials, if your horse is attacked by wolves while you are talking to Charles, you will fail the mission.
  • When you're about to watch him fly, he can be replaced by a big, white horse.
  • If the player points a gun at him or kills him before starting the mission, he and his flying machine disappear entirely.
  • If you have 20+ feathers from different birds, he will take 20 of each feather. For example; if you start with 24 crow feathers, 26 hawk feathers and 22 songbird feathers, you will end up with 4 crow feathers, 6 hawk feathers and 2 songbird feathers.




Aiding Strangers will contribute toward the following Trophies/Achievements:

Bronze Ps3 bronze trophy
Complete a task for a Stranger.

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Silver Ps3 silver trophy
Complete 15 tasks for Strangers.

Gold Ps3 gold trophy
Attain 100% List in the singleplayer game completion list.

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